USPS Closing Six Districts, Eliminating 1,400 EAS Positions And Offering Early Retirement
Organizational Changes – March 20, 2009
• The Postal Service is closing 6 of the 80 district offices, eliminating 521 positions across the country and offering early retirement to nearly 150,000 employees nationwide (excluding Electronic Technicians, MPE Maintenance Mechanics, Part-time Postmasters)
• For the remaining 74 districts across the country, there will be a 15% reduction in administrative staffing.
• More than 1400 mail processing management positions are also being eliminated in nearly 400 facilities around the country.
District Closings
• Massachusetts District – 116 impacted employees (105 are eligible to retire)
Boston District and the Connecticut District (Hartford CT) will assume the
operations.
• New Hampshire/Vermont District – 75 impacted employees (68 eligible to retire)
Northern New England District (Portland ME) will assume operations.
• Erie District – 63 impacted employees (44 eligible to retire)
Western Pennsylvania District (Pittsburgh PA) will assume operations.
• Central Florida District – 104 impacted employees (79 eligible to retire)
South Florida District (Miami FL) and Suncoast District (Tampa FL) will
assume operations.
• Spokane District – 71 impacted employees (52 eligible to retire)
Seattle District and the Salt Lake City District will assume operations.
• Central New Jersey District – 92 impacted employees (63 eligible to retire)
Northern New Jersey District (Newark NJ) and the South Jersey District
(Bellmawr NJ) will assume operations.
It will take approximately 5 months to close down the functions performed at the impacted districts. We expect this to be finalized by the end of August 2009.
Impacted employees will be given 5 months notice to look for a placement within the Postal Service. If unable to do so, the employee will be given a RIF notice on June 24, 2009. Once the RIF notice is received, the employee then has 60 days before their employment status with the Postal Service will end on August 28, 2009.
Function 1 – EAS positions
In excess of 1400 EAS positions in more than 400 facilities will be eliminated in mail processing operations.
These positions are being eliminated based on a mathematical computation designed to readjust our management-to-craft employee ratio to factor in the thousands of craft employees who have left the Postal Service in the last several years.
An employee who is impacted by this decision will be given 4 month’s notice to look for placement within the Postal Service. If they are unable to do so, the employee will be given a Specific RIF notice on May 27, 2009. Once the RIF notice is received, the employee has 60 days before their employment status with the Postal Service will end on July 31, 2009.
Additional information on the elimination of these positions will be provided.
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RIFFING you Good Ruck.
Bendover and Takeit wish you the best.
So long dead wood. Can you say “forced retirement?”
Are they sweetening the early retirement offer, or is it the same thing nobody will take?
This is still unbelievable, to only eliminate 6 of the 80 disticts.all the orders come from the area level. so why do we still need 74 disticts. i wish one of you super intelligent managers in dc or at the area level would tell this stupid letter carrier, why we need all these super intelligent managers to tell us what to do. WHAT THE HELL DO WE NEED FOUR LEVELS OF MANAGEMENT? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START ACTING LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND START DOWNSIZING? OR ARE WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE ARE ALL OUT OF A JOB
Yay! Less deadwood! Please can some of the GOON squad in Seattle! Things are really shaping up for a house cleaning. I can’t wait til this time next year!
well k-mart is hiring
This is bogus. This isn’t an EAS reduction. 1400 when they needed to cut 30,000. Dont think anyones gonna notice the “reduction” when all is said and done. This is more subterfuge to coerce people into early retirement.
Aw man! porkroast is right! 4 levels of management! That’s too much fat! Here’s a solution: 1 carrier supervisor per 40 carriers, 1 station manager, 1 local postmaster, 1 district head, 1 region head, & then the DC bureaucracy. That’s all we need. Uff Da the place runs itself fercryin’outloud!
Y’know at this rate, management will still be announcing lay-offs while the equipment is being auctioned off. Unbelievable. Can I volunteer some local a-holes in management for the severence carrot?
i dunno why we need a lot of idiots just to put junk mails into mailboxes
WHERE’S THE WASHINGTON CUTS TAKE THE WORKING SLOB TELL THEM WE DON’T NEED YOU BUT THE PECES GUYS HERE IS YOUR 150,000 JOB YOU ARE SAFE FREE MEDICAL WHEN YOU RETIRE PIAD SICK LEAVE AL TO WHAT A JOK!!! DISRUPT PEOPLE’S LIVES AND THEY STAY WHERE THEY ARE!!
Do the word furlough ring any bells for you slugs?
Bye-bye…
the middle is way to fat to many know it alls and not enough ets
AHHHHHH…YES! THE SWEET, SWEET, SWEET SMELL OF KARMA……..ELEGANT,AND AROMATIC FROM A DISTANCE, A SKUNK WHEN IT HITS HOME….ALL YOU YOUNG DUMB ASSES WHO ENTERED MANAGAGEMENT THINKING YOU WOULD BE THERE FOR A LIFETIME, WELL GUESS WHAT? YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE FLUSHED!!! AND YOU MAY NOT ENTER BACK IN TO CRAFT…HAHAHA!!!! I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!
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Could this be the end of the notorious Gary D the once hitman for the Tommy Clan! We can only hope so BYE BYE GARY!!!!
I am amazed at the comments of these supposedly great employees. The Postal Service is a great place to work. Sounds to me like it has been too long since you made minimum wage. Whatever changes are made you must remember these are peoples lives beubg effected. Have some compassion and be thankful you have a job. You could be out on the street as some 1 million have been over the last few months.
I love these posts. They prove the only group more childish than the clerk union is the carrier’s union.
Living here is hard enough, on finances, on family, on time in general. Think of your co-workers as nieghbors, an they are struggling. Multiple renter homes, for sale signs, childrens home lifes being disrupted. Worried, I am.
Ditto Mississippi!! Some people do NOT appreciate that they have a job!
And to you Pablo: Who do you suggest is going to process your mail? Transport it to you?
You can still be great employees and speak out on the matter and management. Great employees are at work, doing the work. Pay and opinions have nothing to do with it.
There is approximately 400,000 postal employees, instead of paying your bills online, MAIL THEM. Everyone person has at least 10 bills a month to pay. At .42 cents a letter, $4.20 a month, twelve times a year is approx. $50 plus dollars a year times our 400,000 postal employees would bring in $20,000,000 plus more annual revenue for the postal service. I think you would pay $50 a year instead of losing your yearly income by having your job eliminated. Why pay to keep the internet service going when postal workers are losing their jobs because of declining volume. If you can’t be an advocate for yourself, who can you be an advocate for? Mail your bills, SAVE POSTAL JOBS.
Thats what happens when you leave the Craft and get stuck without being protected by a good contract. Im not losing any sleep over it…. TOO BAD!
When are they going to hit those hundreds of so called Associate Supervisors they just hired???
The USPS is crying poverty and they continued to hire place hundreds into Supervisory positions.
Im not losing any sleep over it now they see what it is like to leave the craft and not be protected by a good strong contract..
SCREW THEM ALL. Management tempted them with the apple they bit it and it had a razor blade in it lol
You’re all idiots….this is the beginning of cleaning house on all of you. Not just incompetent managers but all you lazy workers
Roast us while you can, they’ll be coming for your jobs next. When you’re wanting sympathy for that keep in mind the kindness you showed us when we’re losing our positions.
ALL THE CUTS NOT ONE BIG WIG AMONG THEM BONUSES AND BIG RETIREMENTS FOR THEM!!
craft RIF in June
Beat it BITCH’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Evidently, a few of you folks (ohio,mississip) don’t know what the hell the rest of us are going through & why we’re so happy at the thought of managers being shown the door. We do our job (carrier, clerk, etc.) & yet it’s still not good enough for management. They will screw with you just because they can & they get off on it. I like the pay & benefits of the USPS but the office politics is insane. It is only a matter of time before I move on. And yes, it IS terrifying to think you could be laid off during this depression. I’m just hangin’ on by the skin of my teeth too.
I got six years to go offer me an early out and 50,000 i leave tomorrow
i know postal employees with 30 – 40 years of service that wasting postal hours. hear is a suggestion GO HOME now. and give other people opportunity to advance.
Management RIF will lead to lawsuits. Carvin’ Marvin’ tried it and the deadwood come floating back. As a former advocate I would be willing to help management EXTRACT those managers that don’t swallow. Eliminating 1,400 positions is similar to Bayonne NJ losing 1,400 mosquitos in August….you can’t tell the difference.
So how much money is closing these districts gonna cost ol Blue, We gotta pay all those moving expenses and buy these managers houses at abouve market value,
Union contracts are next. 2010… omg!
OK! So! How many of the “privatetized” CONTRACT EMPLOYEES get cut??? Seriously! There is an enormous amount of waste there!!
CAN YOU SAY” WOULD YOU LIKE FRIES WITH THAT”
I am with pablo we have a new woman postmaster here in texas that treats you worse than dirt. Lets remember why unions were started in the first place. As always to many chiefs not enought indians. Managers made a great job a terrible job. Throw away the computer and use some common sense.
This disabled vet wishes you all the best! NOT!!
Hey, Carriers and clerks, I took a supv position to help my retirement. Guess what, the experiences I saw as a craft employee became even clearer on the other side. You all are right. Seems the better job you try to do, the worse you get treated with little regard that each is an individual with personal lives and problems. I have problems with requirements which I believe unwarranted and not necessary. I will bail this year. For those who must stay, I wish you luck.
its just a matter of time before the economy turns
and the po will be making money hand over fist and management finds a way to waste it as usual
too good to be true…i recall pmg runyans cuts in 91 or 92…they were larger…but yould never have noticed it on the work room floor…yet again over the last decade managements stupidity has only grown…my workload and duties have increased…im even begged to solicit buisness as i make my daily rounds and yet not use any extra time…well im not paid to smooze…every district has a sales team id love to help but i have mail to deliver despite managements attempts to drive the service into the ground..every supervisor ive worked under thinks they are hot shit or readily admit the couldnt handle carrying mail at least the latter are honest..my current pm is a former clerk used to be an ot hog back then…kissed the bosses asses and walla up to hog heaven she goes…realy,,this woman has a 6 inch stride..you can hear her shuffling across the floor…she orders huge lunches and eats them in her office..then falls asleep this being told to me by more than one clerk…what @#^^*#@@@!@!!!!!
there will be a cash incentive to retire..25 k
bye bye PO
33 YEARS
Don’t let the doors hit you in the asses. I will turn off the light when I leave.
Just remember Postmaster Daddy ain’t going
to lay off his supv son or daughter… The P.O.
was run by morons 25 years ago & now it is
run by the families next generation of morons..
Plus anyone thinking about the P.O. giving
you a money incentive to retire dream on Bobo..
I wouldn’t expect any early out cash incentive. The Service just isn’t going to fork out anything when our losses are this huge.
I Guess we now will be able to increase our teams of dead wood that tell us where we are loseing time.If they dont touch the mail DUMP them .We already have all the moo s and Poo s And Goopity Goo s to tell each other what the computer print out says.Maybe the Useless PEE S should Contract Out Some Useless Management and DUMP everbody Else .You Know Those Careing Supervisors And Managers That are so in Tune With Improveing The DO DO DOIS NUMBERS.Except Potter And His Family Of Coarse.We have computers and automation WHAT IN THE WORLD DO THESE PEOPLE PRODUCE BESIDES EXPENSE TO THE USPS>>SOONER THEY GO THE SOONER WE SAVE>BUT WAIT I THINK THEY COULD TRIPLE THAT 1400 EAS NUMBER JUST ASK ” DOIS ” The DO DO BIRD…..
25k sounds good bye
I read all these posts and it really disappoints me. We are all brothers and sisters. Individuals made decisions to move up the ladder, some were content working in their respective crafts. What job do you know of where you start doing one job and 30 years later retire? There are not many. For all different reasons Postal employees all over the country made decisions on what they wanted to do and how far they wanted to go, some decided to give more to the company and become Postmasters, Supervisors, Managers, Human Relations, Labor, IT, Op Support, but they all have one thing in common, once they were craft…all of them. I know of no single employee that walked in off the street and became a Postmaster, Supervisor or Manager. We all started from the bottom, we all worked the same jobs, and we all gave blood for this company that has given us and our families a good life. As everyone can see, that is going to change. The Postal Service is starting with the only craft that does not have a union to fight for them…management. They are starting from the top and will end with the bottom. I firmly believe there is not one job safe within the Postal Service. All of us need to do better at our jobs, seek revenue, and be a part of the solution, not the problem. I hope some of the critical people posting their words of disgrace here anonymously do not have to go home to their families over the next few months and tell them they lost their job. Tough times ahead for everyone, God Bless and I hope all weather this economic storm with dignity, honor and integrity.
Think of the bon-fire we can all have with so much dead wood laying idle. Seriously how about trim the management fat and leave the workers alone to get the job done.. Maybe even get some proper route adjustments to reflect reality. Save some real money cut off their bonuses too.
Send them all to the bunny slope.
I really love these retiree’s that want to privatize the PO now that they have THEIR time in. Betcha you didn’t talk like that 15 years before you retired, scumbag.
Hmmm….wait a minute…the DOIS numbers say 1400 EAS positions is not enough. DOIS says we can do without 5,000 EAS positions. Gotta believe DOIS.
Speaking of deadwood, let’s get rid of the bogus “LIGHT DUTY” bums. And the angry lazy’s who complain about every thing, hide in the bathrooom, and do nothing all day. Because they were too stupid to plan for retirement they want to share their misery. Judging from some of these post there are some angry employees, my question is why don’t you leave the P.O. if it is so horrible???????????
If you could’nt get 40,000 out in December how are you going to get 150 thousand now. They better offer some cash. The PO better start acting like a Corporation and not some nickel and dime store.
I work as a rural carrier for cincinnati district and have seen my evaluated hours cut drastically in the last 6 years. You know, force us into a mailcount, manipulate the mail in po’s favor and at the end tell us our route is only worth 42 hours per 6 day workweek. So that means no off day. Been with po for 19 years this month and I still love what I do, but I have to say, this situation has me depressed. To all who have lost, you have my heartfelt sympathy.
GOOD BY
Daylight who needs them
Lets drive it home
Watch Man, I have done what you said. But then I realized that I will have two sets of people who hated me for being efficient. The slugs who said I made them look bad because I do not go with the mantra (go slow more dough) and the leeches from management who would let me carry their pet slugs. Bottom line is there is no incentive to do a good job in this pig sty.
With a bloated postal bureaucracy that epitomizes the Peter Principle, how is this dinosaur going to survive? When decisions are made like to purchase MPE that require new facilities to be built to house it (FSS) and it sorts mail that nobody wants to get in their mailbox, somethings got to give. The postal service suffers from the same lack of moral clarity that our government displays on a daily basis, i.e., there is no accountability and God forbid anyone actually has to suffer for their extremely poor decisions. I have a feeling this Congress will see their way to removing the “impedement” of collective barganing in the postal service, before another contract is rendered. There would be no problem getting that pass the American people. They think we’re overpaid anyway.
Where’s BOSS??? Cat got his tounge??? I miss his misguided interjection… Perhaps he is filling out that app for the greeter position at the local Wal-Mart. Good luck pal…
Watchman,
You hit the nail on the head. This is one company and like it or not, we will all fail if we don’t work together. Some of these post are so unfair and critical of all EAS. What of those who are caught in this hailstorm who don’t supervise craft employees? Also, these will not be the final layoffs, clerks and carriers are next even though no one is saying it. When they don’t receive the numbers from the VER, and they won’t they will reduce craft, and all of your kind words will be aimed at your co-worker.
I for one do NOT care what will happen to all of you!
I’m a vietnam vet and have 38 total years of service in. I was going to go for 40 but I may hang around. It’s fun being an old slug and watching all my supervisors stressing out. If they want to RIF I’ll be the last one turning out the lights.
Message to BigWigs in Washington DC: MAKE IT WORTH MY WHILE.
I have been at the PO as a carrier for almost 23 years. Starting as a PTF for the first 7. I always believed in doing my best… So I “ran” the 2 full time city routes much faster than the 2 regular carriers, who were your typical slough. When one of the carriers retired, I moved into one of the routes and continued to do the route at my same pace, taking LWOP and going home when done with my route. Mail volumes were increasing during this period, but DPS came along, so that made casing faster.
They finally got around to adjusting my route 5 1/2 years ago. I was excessed with the “opportunity” to go to 2 different Post Offices, both 50 miles away and a good hour drive. I told them I don’t like my job enough to spend 2 hours a day driving back and forth, and reverted to a PTF again, where I still do my route, that is an aux route now. I COULD HAVE gone to a office that was only 30 miles away (and would have) but I was not given the option… That’s when I really began to see the writing on the wall, …that the PO will F*#k you over every chance they get, no matter how good a job you have done for them!!!
I figured out once how much money I saved them during my first 20 years by “running” instead of doing the routes as the other sloughs did…It was enough to have PAID FOR MY HOUSE!!! How did they thank me? Guess I should have followed the “go slow, more dough” credo!!!
I STILL continued to go out and run even after I reverted… In fact as mail volumes started dropping (and DPS reached 90%), I started going to neighboring offices (5 and 30 miles away) to pick up hours. Then I tore the meniscus in my knee (on the job). I also have arthritis which has been getting progressively worst . I was going slower after that due to knee pain, and our A$$hole Postmaster accused me of “burning” her on hours!!! (Ironically, I was still doing the route slightly faster, time adjusted for changes over the years, than the slug before me! What a crock!) Needless to say, my disenchantment with the Postal Service has reached a new high! I no longer make any effort to do my best! If I’m going to be accused of being a slough when I had a legitimate injury and a medical reason for being slower than in the past, then I WILL GO AS SLOW AS I POSSIBLY CAN!!! AND I DO!!!
The Postal Service SUCKS and I can’t wait to leave! I was eligible for the VERA, but I am a FERS employee…. Nice the way they screwed us on that deal, compared to the CSRS employees offer! I hope they come out with a better one this next time around, but I doubt it, … why break tradition?
I am just ONE (of what I am sure is hundreds) postal employee who was treated like sh#t, even though I did a good job…. THAT is why this company is going to go under.
and I will laugh my A$$ off when it happens!!!
Notice that out of the 6 districts closing, It will only affect 110 people. 411 of them are eligible to retire! Maybe this is a way to get them to GO HOME and find something better to do!
I can’t imagine why people would rather go the Post Office where you are treated like dirt, then find something better to do with their life!
Offer me no penalty and I’m gone.
If efficiently run companies are folding left and right how much more a bloated, dysfunctional organization like the po which have thousands of employees in its payroll most of whom have an entitlement mind set? It is a heartless organization that goes with a slogan “a nice place to work.” Yes a nice place to work for people who have no souls, no conscience…greedy people who would go home to their families, act normally as if screwing somebody in the workplace is normal. I’ve seen it all from the management and the craft side. I could not even imagine that this workplace exists in this country that professes all the positive principles and values in this world. Yes, I am disillusioned. But I still hope that money will not become our God.
What you idiots and the press don’t realize is these people are not losing their jobs. THEY HAVE SAVE GRADE!!!!!!!!!THey will get paid the same for doing less work elsewhere. How many times have I seen a manager so incompetent or stealing from the PO relieved of there job and put on Quality control at the same pay rate. These employees will just be shuffled around and thats it.
I’ve been in the post office 20 years and started as a ptf carrier. I went into management because I was tired of watching the pieces of sh>? carriers bring the USPS DOWN! I would blast out the routes 2 hrs faster than the reg and more accurate while they were working six days a week getting ot! I vowed to make a difference and I will ! Like anything in life there are sh”? supervisor’s and sh*& craft employees! if you go to work and do what’s right things will always fall into place craft or management!
Potter wants another raise!! How about 50% this time??
EAS Stud, When that distict manager or area manager tells you to eat shit, you will the shit and you will tell him it tastes good
hey porkroast
after i’m done eating shit i will tell you on dois to eat my shit and you will and also do a pivot in 8hrs dickhead!!!!!!!
peace brothers hahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaha
Hey porkroast, I’m a 30 year Postal employee and I would make you the PMG . . . You’re the man !
when i first started working for the usps 35 years ago the majority of carriers did their job,did not bitch and did the work in the time alloted. now atleast half of them are overtime sucking whinners. Wake up. We have a great job,benefits,etc. Do the work especially now that the mail volume is way down. Amazing
1,400 EAS posits eliminated? No way!
The job title may be gone, but the 1,400 will still be on the payroll.
Eas Stud, You are just like all the supers/postmasters in the postal service. I just proved it, by the comments you posted. I was trying to make a point, you do not have any say in how your office is run.
EAS STUD Says “if you go to work and do what’s right things will always fall into place craft or management!”
That is BS!!! Obviously you didn’t read my post! It does not pay to do a good job in the Postal Service!!! It pays to “go slow, more dough”. Until they change that, the PO will always be a slackers dream job. If the City routes were like the rural routes (evaluated and paid at the same rate regardless of how long it took YOU to do it), they would see a DRAMATIC improvement in productivity!!!!
The other city route in our town has had 30 minutes added to it (from my route) twice now… once after DPS (when they also adjusted my route and I went back to PTF) and again this year because of the volume drop. So her route has gained 1 hour, my route lost 1 hour + if you consider that both route were supposedly 8 hour routes back when slacker slough Carol was doing the one I’m doing now, then it follows that my route also most have lost 1 hour to adjust for DPS and dropping volume… RIGHT? So my former 8 hour route (minus the sections I lost)SHOULD take me 6 hours if I was doing it at the speed at which Carol did it.
Here is REALITY: Carol is “over burdened” and hands off ALL of the segments she took from me EVERYDAY ALL WINTER! During the spring, summer, and fall, she hands off the mail any day the mail isn’t ridiculously light. She basically took those sections of my route on paper only, she rarely actually carries it!!! Meanwhile I am still doing everything that I was doing BEFORE the so called adjustments (the majority of the time), so it should take me 7 hours, RIGHT? (8-the 1 hour adjustment for DPS and Vol made to my route). During the winter (this is a all foot/no vehicle route) it takes me and average of 5 1/2 hours! In the summer I can do it in 5. These are my CURRENT times as a freakin’ CRIPPLE!!! I use it be able to do in 4 to 4 1/2.
Yet the Postmaster calls ME into her office and screams at me that I’m “burning” her on hours, when I started slowing down due to my injury and arthritis!!! She has NEVER said a word to Carol about how long she takes; continues to let her hand off the mail, and here is another kicker… continues to allow Carol to go through her DPS every morning, pulling out holds and fwds, and bundling it into her loops!!! (I have personally seen Carol take 10 to 15 mins on a normal day doing this, and as much as 30 mins on a heavy day)
Do I have to say it, or can you tell? Carol and the Postmaster are friends!!!
The Post Office SUCKS and doing the “what’s right” will just get you screwed!!!
Some of them need to go. What goes around comes around. God don’t like ugly. ( Neopotism and favouritism ).
I am very saddened by all of these comments from my fellow postal workers. I hate to see anyone lose their job now or at any other time. However, I do agree that if they want workers to retire they need to offer some kind of incentive or at least offer no penalty if you have your 30 years in but are under 55. We have many workers in our office that are way past retirement age and have earned their full retirement…yet they don’t go. The work has lightened up so much for the clerks that they can basically get through the day doing very little unless they are Tour II clerks busting their butt on the window. So they stay on for more than 40 years instead of quietly going and allowing the younger workers the opportunity for the hours they need to feed their families.
This is my first comment on here and since I’m sure I will be chewed up for it, it will probably be my last. But I am very sorry for anyone that is losing a job right now. I don’t care who they are.
Sad but true the USPS are letting Supervisors go, who needs them anyway when they get so picky and yell at you as if you are a child. All those sorry bastards who have a choice to find another craft should try being what they where before they became arrogant sonz of bee’z…and that is Letter Carrier Craft. I would love to see those supervisors who burned a lot of Letter Carriers go out there and do our job in all kinds of weather and feel what they was missing all those years when they was sitting on their fat butts and walking around the Station with their hands in their pockets. I will have no remorse for them for what they put me and my fellow Letter Carriers through.
i case my dps everyday and run over what u gonna do?
Being an MPE, I am not affected, but on riffs I hope Veterans and American citizens get job preference. Here on the West Coast they hire mostly foreigners
Wait a minute! The Union told me if I voted for Obama, he would save the Postal Service! I don’t feel stimulated. Did the APWU lie to me?
All that clamour for a $50,000.00 buyout get real the OMB caps VER at $25,000.00 this can only be changed by congress. However if there is a R I F or layoffs then the Postal Service is mandated to pay up to a maximum of 52 weeks of your salary in bi-weekly payments. If 25 grand comes along would be prudent to look long and hard at it. Good luck to all Postal Workers this is the tip of the coming events it won’t be nice.
Triple Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
the beginning of the end for the postal service watch how management at the entry level will start stabbing each other in the back. something they learned by doing it to the craft employees. it is going to be a sight to see and savor
I say start at the guys that are station managers one of them could run 3 or more stations. The Manager for Cape Central in Florida, is hardly ever there and when he is there he is just talking about what they should have for lunch. One guy like this could run 3 stations go into each place check the mail and make sure everyone is alright then do a telacon with the other 2 to see what they want to eat.
Get rid of them.
SCREW THOSE SUPERVISORS WATCHMAN. THEY ALL LEFT THE CRAFT AND THEN STABBED THEIR FELLOW WORKERS IN THE BACK EVERY CHANCE THEY GOT.THEY ALL FORGET THAT MOST OF THEM FOUND THE HIDING PLACES. MAYBE MR DOIS CAN HELP THEM FIND ANOTHER JOB.
Good luck to all of you. All the things I am reading here do not strike me as strange. They just show why the USPS will fall through the cracks in the not too distant future. I see why unions in the United Sates of America are only 15% of the workforce. The unions in America are no longer needed and are causing nothing but hate and discontent. God help us all.
What a dummy! The unions have disappeared and so have the miidleclass, knucklehead.
idiots its not management that has ruined the post office its the lazy ass craft employees that have spelled its doom. if they really want to do something get rid of the unions that all the lazy people hide behind and give them the right to fire the slackers that have ruined it for everybody. you know who i mean probley most of the ones that have left a comment here
You’re full of crap, bill. I went in 30 years ago gung ho out of the military and after dealing with sh&thead postal management I don’t do sh&t anymore. And all of these a**holes, for all of their bullying can’t make me do sh*t. So f%%k you a$$hole.
The people I have no use for are the retiree’s who think we need to get rid of USPS just because they already have their time in. I bet they didn’t talk like that when they had 15 years to go. They need their stupid teeth kicked in.
Bill,
I am not responsible to the USPS for what some of my fellow employees do. USPS is responsible to ME for what they do, since they are the ones to put them on the payroll. Maybe they should have recruited from a better class of bail bond joint.
This is the second of continuing rounds of rolling VERS. Be patient. There will be future VERS during the this and next year. Eventually,PO will get its desired # of retirements,approximately 40K when alls said and done.
postal mentality = I’m a victim
hey bob do you know what save grade is? it’s only for 2 years now you are not reading between the lines the bigwigs are not getting cut the peces level six figure salaries for retirement fully paid medical benefits fully paid sick leave annual leave no cap on them for al carryover to next year!these cuts for managers is just the start craft is next first comes moving employee around facility to facility next 2010 2011 contracts which will be nothing!!no layoff clause will be removed. just look at your cola this year what is it close your eyes what do you see? this is not about service anymore the bigwigs just want to cover their asses and in 5 years they take the money and run and you guys will be holding the ball!!!!
Bill is right 100%. Do your job and stop whinning. I could find 1000 people in lees than a day that would take all the whinners jobs. If you think you are overworked and underpaid quit and welcome yourself to the real world.
offer a financial incentive. and let the people go.
Who, in this economic climate will take this offer? Do any of you who have posted a comment even know anyone who will go?
Unless, the idiots in Washington make an offer worth looking at, no one with a brain will go. Maybe the ones in ties will, because we know they don’t have a brain. That’s why their song of choice is, (If I only had a brain).
Rif the Postmaster General
brick.goodbye poom carl f and pm frank p you both are going to hell and take your bj jill a with you so you can do a threesome.try thinking with your head on your shoulder not beteen your legs.
Hopefully the Dead Wood will finally realize their evil ways. Hopefully the PO will not bow down to laziness with fear of EEO’s.
Absolutely ridiculous in Tampa.
Trim the fat, trim the lazy, trim the “should have retired by now.” {35+ years [are you kidding me CSRS employees? 70% and you can't afford to leave? What a joke!]}
If the PO did that, instead of trying to run the place like a political race, things would be quite a bit better.
I love being part of the APWU, but it has made people lazy. If the stewards would just tell the lazy people to actually “work”, things wouldn’t be half as bad. Love my job, always have, but sick of carrying 3-4 people’s workload on my back, cause’ mgmt can’t get them to “work”.
capt red except for a few the csrs people are the only one’s left who do the job!! 32 years here it use to be the young guys would come in and carry the ball in the last 10 to 15 years check the percentage of light duty people!!! almost all are 30 to 45 year olds useless people on a free ride!!!let’s see how you react when you get this far and see if you retire!!! everybody says BOY IF I HAD THAT TIME AND AGE I WOULD GO IN A HERATBEAT!!! i don’t think so!!!
This is in response to (Rock`s) comments. Are you an idiot? You think if and when the economy turns around the Post Office will start making money again, how do you figure that? With more and more people paying bills online the mail volume will continue to decrease. With the postage rate increasing on a yearly basis the volume will drop even more. Wake up and realize whats plainly obvious, the Post Office is a sinking ship that will continue to drown in red ink. Sorry to break the news to you.
what comes around goes around. 29 years of service coming to work giving a good days work for a days pay. what do i get in return? years of abuse by under qualified kiss ass blow job supervisers. who i like to call parasites for living off of my blood and sweat. that have never worked a day in their life before or after working for the post office.f%%k them! they just eliminated all our bids. after having weekends off for twenty years i ended up with wed/thur thats the kind of thanks you get for dedication
I hear ya hoseman. F$%k these a&&holes. After busting my a** for 20 years and being treated like sh*t the whole time and now this bullsh*t, well, I don’t do sh*t anymore.
Incentive? How bout’ just NOT hitting for 2% on my Retirement for Retiring at age 52 instead of 55. I have 30 years in, and sure as S*^% not gonna give em’ 6% of my Retirement! Get a Clue USPS! It didn’t work last time, why try the same crap again?
I wish some incentive would be offered on new Vera, the PO would get alot more people to retire. Me for one. For all the negative people out there, you should be happy to just have a job. Where else could you make this kind of money? Can”t we all just be happy. Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!
There is good and bad in everything and everybody. Are all supervisors bad? NO are all craft employees good? NO so lets stop it. I have been supervising for 10 years and have always thanked my crew, and known what a hard job they do. The service is like a baseball team, althow the coach never makes a hit ,strikes anyone out or has an RBI at the end of the season he is the guy that the team holds up over their head when they win the chapionship. We both have to be good and respect each others postion in order for the TEAM to win.
There is good and bad in everything and everybody. Are all supervisors bad? NO are all craft employees good? NO so lets stop it. I have been supervising for 10 years and have always thanked my crew, and known what a hard job they do. The service is like a baseball team, althow the coach never makes a hit ,strikes anyone out or has an RBI at the end of the season he is the guy that the team holds up over their head when they win the championship. We both have to be good and respect each others postion in order for the TEAM to win.
For those of you who haven’t really noticed; the postal service as we have know it is on it’s way into oblivion and we have all played a part in it’s demise.
Yes, the “Peter Principle” is alive and doing well among us. Instead of good overcoming evil; evil greed and out of control egos have overcome good. Every man for himself has become our motto.
Yesterday they went after the light and limited duty clerks. Today they are going after managers. Tomorrow they are coming after you, and you, and you!
It’s the Post Master Generals who stand to gain. Each one siphons off another a part of the service for their own personal gain as they go out of the door.
Most but not all of the managers have been conditioned to believe that their subordinates are not worhty of the pay. Indeed many of them were not worhty of much of anything and that’s why they became supervisor, (for lack of a better term). If they were to spend as much time thing of ways in which to improve the system as they do thinking of ways to screw us, we’d be in great shape. Unfortunately that’s not the case. There are a few good supervisors, but they lack the courage to be/do much of anything else. They don’t take a stand for fear of bieng mutilated in much the same manner as the clerks have been.
Clerks malhandlers, etc. have been so abused that many of them just don’t give a dam anymore. They’re just collecting a paycheck: And those of us who continue to care are treated like slaves, animals, and prisoners of war. If the truth were told we’d recognize that the Postal Service operates without supervisors period. They are just glorified papre pushers. They spend most of their time sleeping in offices, screwing around (w/each other), and delegating their work to the clerks.
Who cares about our health, our welfare, or our rights anymore. Even the unions have been dummied down. They’ve bargained away a lot of our rights. Many of the actions that are being implemented now are taking place because the union(s) have arbitrarily agreed to them. They don’t tell us what we need to know until it’s to late. Then they claim that there is nothing that can be done about it. Your day is coming too! Our contract is supposed to be based on the law as is/are the ELM and other manuals and handbooks
Why haven’t you stood firm on it. Oh I forgot! they’re trying to change that too!
I don’t feel sorry for many of these supervisors. I do feel compassion for those of us who have worked ourselves into bad mental and physical health to make this system work not just for oursleves, but for our customers.
What we need to do most is stand with and not against each other because as we all know and will come to realize soon is that “A house divided cannot and will not stand!”
amazing, all the yahoos in various crafts still pointing fingers-shut up nitwits. The NALC, APWU, etc bear just as much responsibility for the waste in the Post Office as “evil management”. I will simplify this for you brain dead craft workers- The Post Office is in the red due to the forced advanced funding of retiree benefits, the massive surge in fuel prices last year, and the massive loss in revenue due to the economic crisis-which is not exclusive to the Post office, NOT because a bunch of evil Dictators at the top of the great Postal Pyramid are conspiring to fire everybody and keep all the money themselves. You are all idiots-if I had a dime for every mail handler hiding behind a pallet avoiding work with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth yapping about how bad the post office is I’d be rich man. All you craft suckbags can thank your unions for teaching you how to circumvent the contract and YOUR responsibilities to work and suck the blood out of the post office with your bogus injury claims, phony harassment EEO complaints, and overall piss- poor performance. The most difficult job in the PO, other than Level 17 frontline supervisor, is Letter Carrier-after that, the quality of employees goes down hill exponentially.
In Richmond the some management ASPs are being told to either find a new job or move on your jobs are not going to be kept. Isnt it nice to see management on the hot seat for a change.
Hey customer bite me.When we the window clerks are all gone you can wipe your own butt.
This is what happens when people don’t believe in God to provide for them. I have never given the USPS credit for being my provider. This job was just a way for God to provide for me. If this job ends ,He will make sure I am taken care of. I have always done my best and told the truth. Being a Shop Steward and calling management on their lies has been my calling. To all of you who have sold your souls to the Devil- lieing, stealing and cheating your fellow employee to get ahead- your time has come.
I will have to get a real job in a women’s prison.
Didn’t I tell you not to use my name in vane? How dare you think or speak for me.
I have read most of the posts. Some are right on the mark, at least i think so. But no matter how you slice it, it is mis-management that has killed the PO. Some people like to say, well if it weren’t for the unions things would be better.The unions do not set policy. The mangmnt in DC does. The problems really aren’t any ones fault. It is the system. I know in my 40 years service I knew a lot of good workers who thought that they could make a difference by going into mangmnt, but they couldn’t because they couldn’t change the system. The system is broken and needs to be fixed. And it won’t be fixed by the people in charge now. A complete house cleaning needs to be done! Will it happen. Of course not. And that’s the sad part of it. Way too much fat, esp. in upper management. Somebody really needs to start being in charge. I know, we won’t hold our breath.
what class happy a co-worker losses their job
wow
Let me back in….I WANT IN…………. I had to resign because i couldn’t get a transfer when my husband had to relocate 2 yrs ago !!!!! I WANT IN………… LET ME BACK IN !!!!!!!
I started with the PO when I was 19yrs old & had 26 yrs in…..
All you winers try to learn how to wait tables & cook burgers for minimum wage. And like IT!!!
A resume that says “I can sort mail, deliver mail, sell stamps & supervise the above” does NOT go far !!!!!
LET ME DON MY UNIFORM AND SATCHEL !
LET ME SMILE AT THE CUSTOMER !
LET ME BE COLD, WET OR SWEAT BULLETS AGIAN !
FOR IT ALL I KNOW…………
SOB
yo admit yo be da wors employees in da world an woner wy yo going ta be slingin burgers. yo gonna havta work harder at mcgonalds than carryin da mail. jus overpaid paperboyz.
tanks fo yo vote dummys
This is what you call :
“LEGAL MASS EXECUTIONS”
Never will I be proud to don a postal uniform once I get outta this place…. seen misuse of funds, favoritism, sexual harrassment, threating verbal harrassment, and nepotism rampant!!! And people wonder why we’re in the hole??!!!
GOD BE WITH US ALL.WE ARE IN FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF EXCESSING.
In some respect, we are all in this together, this
great Organization, in the first time in its History has to layoff workers, “on our watch”, Management or Craft we all failed to forsee this and place her in line for todays needs and services, “all of us,” I may loose my Job today but the business is dieing the boat is filling with water while your laughing at your fellow shipmate the water is at your knee’s, are you perpared, I am!
Boo Hoo! Seriously…. I listen to people everyday cry about what mgmt doesn’t do. Here’s an idea. Look at your self and ask “What can I do to help the PO out” insted of what can they do for me. Problem with the craft employees is this.. They have revolved their lives around OT. And, I have read pretty much all of these posts. Heres an idea to a lot of you bashing Mgmt LEARN To SPELL. You sound like morons calling others morons when you can’t even spell.

